What is this "open forum through a conference type setting" that someone approached them on"--I would guess/sounded like--a presentation to I.E. -- EF Hutton --for their analyst or group of investors that a portfolio mngr wants a group of his clients to see/hear the Todos spiel. Sometimes these are given to exclusive audience but recorded/available for all shareholders later and on occasion , shareholders can be "listen only" as it is live.