I remember the OTC talk as a possible OEM. They had a wrap for most every joint on the body. That seemed like like a perfect partner for Bioelectronics to incorporate their products. And yes, now that you mentioned it, I recall they had a product for planter f. I thought at that time, they would be the one to sign up after losing Dr. Scholls. Maybe never happened due to negotiations with the good Dr, because they wanted an exclusive. And that (exclusive) would be fine with me. Their NAME is powerful enough for warranting that.