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Posted On: 09/02/2021 6:34:28 PM
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You aren't helping anything.. what you're doing is the equivalence of flat eartherism.. you read an article or two or heard a podcast and think you know something.
Let me use your crude and broken analogy in a way that actually applies to the situation.
Two valleys.. goats, wolves.
The competent host valley has wolves that have never seen a goat before. They are sight impaired. There's a mostly solid barrier running down the middle of the valley, and as luck would have it, all female goats are on one side of the barrier, and all the males are on the other. For the goats to reproduce, the goats have to find some unplugged holes that were left over from the barrier's construction, and slip their unit through to the ladies. These holes are such that some are too large, or too short, to consummate the deed and reproduce. Only some, by chance, will have both the girth and length that will allow for procreation. There's also a farmer that throws all the male progeny back over the barrier. Left to their own devices, all male sheep would eventually start converging on a similar morphology.
The wolves in this valley appear, and it takes them a while, but they figure out they can eat the goats, and the goats are delicious. So they do. Eventually, they eat the goats with the serendipitously shaped units, and thus eventually ends the goats in that valley.
The other valley, all the parameters are the same, except the wolves. These wolves are utterly blind, and half deaf as well. By the time they figure out the goats are there, and they are food, the goats are already well underway in the process of undergoing reproductive selection. These wolves miss a couple of the serendipitously endowed goats, and they sire several generations. Now all males can reproduce effectively. The wolves still cull a few here and there, but in no way can they make a dent on the population as a whole. The goats eat the valley clean. They die, but not before a few wander over the hill to the other valley, with the only moderately sight impaired wolves.
They wade happily into the tall grass, munching away, and eventually that valley's wolves become aware there's food again. These goats are already adapted, and even though the wolves are a greater selective force, the goats can sustain their population much longer, since they are already adapted to the reproductive barrier. Long enough to go to the next valley, and the next. Some wolves will be better than others. The weak wolves are the ones that give enough leeway for
Sequential
Accumulation
Of
Beneficial
Mutations
That then go on to make populations more resistant to the wolves predation.
The host immune system, for a novel virus, is not its only problem, nor its biggest problem at the outset. You don't understand this. You're thinking of predation only.. it's incomplete, and it leads to wrong conclusions.
You're attempting to restate your positions and you're still missing the mark. So yes, you can stop now.
Let me use your crude and broken analogy in a way that actually applies to the situation.
Two valleys.. goats, wolves.
The competent host valley has wolves that have never seen a goat before. They are sight impaired. There's a mostly solid barrier running down the middle of the valley, and as luck would have it, all female goats are on one side of the barrier, and all the males are on the other. For the goats to reproduce, the goats have to find some unplugged holes that were left over from the barrier's construction, and slip their unit through to the ladies. These holes are such that some are too large, or too short, to consummate the deed and reproduce. Only some, by chance, will have both the girth and length that will allow for procreation. There's also a farmer that throws all the male progeny back over the barrier. Left to their own devices, all male sheep would eventually start converging on a similar morphology.
The wolves in this valley appear, and it takes them a while, but they figure out they can eat the goats, and the goats are delicious. So they do. Eventually, they eat the goats with the serendipitously shaped units, and thus eventually ends the goats in that valley.
The other valley, all the parameters are the same, except the wolves. These wolves are utterly blind, and half deaf as well. By the time they figure out the goats are there, and they are food, the goats are already well underway in the process of undergoing reproductive selection. These wolves miss a couple of the serendipitously endowed goats, and they sire several generations. Now all males can reproduce effectively. The wolves still cull a few here and there, but in no way can they make a dent on the population as a whole. The goats eat the valley clean. They die, but not before a few wander over the hill to the other valley, with the only moderately sight impaired wolves.
They wade happily into the tall grass, munching away, and eventually that valley's wolves become aware there's food again. These goats are already adapted, and even though the wolves are a greater selective force, the goats can sustain their population much longer, since they are already adapted to the reproductive barrier. Long enough to go to the next valley, and the next. Some wolves will be better than others. The weak wolves are the ones that give enough leeway for
Sequential
Accumulation
Of
Beneficial
Mutations
That then go on to make populations more resistant to the wolves predation.
The host immune system, for a novel virus, is not its only problem, nor its biggest problem at the outset. You don't understand this. You're thinking of predation only.. it's incomplete, and it leads to wrong conclusions.
You're attempting to restate your positions and you're still missing the mark. So yes, you can stop now.
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