Southbill - I hear you, and, I understand. If Joe and company were doing nothing and not keeping us informed I would join you. On the other hand, if Joe and company are working day and night, and cannot keep us informed for various legitimate reasons, then talk of a 13D is destructive. We need to be patient. I've been here and invested as much or more than anyone since Anna Gluskin. I saw my investment all but disappear - then Joe came along and kick started this old machine to give my then dead investment life. I will continue to be patient. I have no other choice.