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I for one am open minded here - especially after watching the value of my investment plummet by 75% over the past 12 months. not saying I'm supporting this group yet - but I'm also tired of people making them out to be these evil manipulators operating in the shadows, driving the SP down, etc. - I don't buy any of that.

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Hulk, yes, your investment plunged by 75% over the past 12 months. But it also plunged about 30% since the 13D crowd announced their plans in mid-May. And it's hardly risen a speck at any time since. So maybe they aren't evil manipulators operating in the shadows (though they might be), but they are without a doubt driving the price down. They are stock flippers and company flippers, and we trust them at our peril.