hylander, I will agree that they are not, at this point, failures, but they also are not successes, as we have seen no revenue from them. At best, they have unrealized potential, and the operative issue is when that potential will become real, or simply pass by the wayside like numerous other initiatives. With these companies, if I don't remind myself daily/weekly/monthly/annually that past performance (or lack of it) is no indicator of future results (or lack of it), I sink into the downward spiral of cynicism.