Exactly, mikey. No need to ever bring that subject up, as it gives me heart palpitations just seeing that term mentioned. I've been through SEVERAL in past endeavors on the OTCBB and each one completely destroyed my portfolio, and whatever money I put into those endeavors that wound up becoming scams. UNVC is a different animal altogether on this issue. Hope that was the last time we see that brought up, because I have a very unfortunate history with those practices that have dramtically impacted my life each time.