I hope you are correct on the upward wind. Have not posted for quite some time now, have been with Verb - nfuse for going on 5 years now. I see a few that have been here from the beginning are still around. Do not see much from Maui hope all is well with him. Have chatted with Red a few times over the years glad to see you are still involved you have always been a great resource for information not only here but on other boards also. Still a firm believer in Rory and Jeff"s vision. Have not sold a single share over the years was fortunate enough to be able to buy buy in @ the 8 cents per share price and able to buy a couple hundred thousand shares. We are over due for our day but do believe it will eventually come. Hang in there all it's been a bumpy ride and I'm sure we have some more hurdles to clear but we will get there. Everyone take care of yourself and loved ones through these unusual times. I know the whole Verb team works hard every day to make sure Verb will get us to our financial goals we all invested for. Don't stop believing.