I will be the first to admit I am mental when it comes to human garbage like facts matter 14. People have the misconception that only newbies fall prey to their tactics. But many traders lose their discipline in the otc and trade with their emotions when confronted with these unfeeling monsters. Life teaches you things, like if you brag about your money, then in most cases you have none, or if you observe the forums you know who really makes money ( Berkshire Agent, Bruce the stock guy, o.c. millionaire and so on. My point is people do listen to these liars.