thanks for reply kgem and i think yer not alone alote peeple expressing there anger ... i being a green  investor  am amazed this lowest  obvious form of manipulation is allowed without it catching authorities eyes somwhere along the way was this strickly a moderators doing or ihub adminastrators involved ?

and somwhere along the line of leaving a paper trail but a electronic trail per say a competent sec/authorities  or some such i would think could put 2+2 together towards a growing list of obvious manipulation in this scam and others not to mention vauge and continual missleading pr from willy wouldnt be enough to start some kind of investigation on its own let alone his proir repete history but i am speculating on things way out of my leage

hell  even commenting  to a unfavorable mmte post was quickly deleted to keep green investors such as myself from knowing the truth  not to mention yer post or other educated veteran investors being quickly shuffeled and hidden from exposing the facts