Honestly, I don't think the opportunity is any more clear or visible than it has been in the past, and the CD12 interim data may or may not change things. If we haven't learned by now that almost everything CYDY thought was going to move the needle basically hasn't...

Look, I want this to work too and have plenty of money tied up in it, but the truth is we may just all be spinning our wheels until HIV approval, whenever the heck that may be.