Very true. Joe better have some substantive progress and news for these 2 up coming conf call or I think it is time for him to be replaced. True grit can only get you so far. If all you deal with is the gutter investors, you will only keep getting the gutter investors. They are in the gutter for a reason and that is to make money for themselves by destroying companies. Joe does not have the clout to deal with the big companies, it would seem. I like the guy, but he is now driving this company into the pit below where Anna and Rose had it. Sorry, that is how it is starting to look.