...and just to add to this story, let's not forget Grip who still posts on the other board. The day before they Vyera announcement (Dec 17), his response to my optimistic post about a pending license deal was "THERE IS NO DEAL! NADER LIED - WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT???" and then ran over to the Yahoo board bragging about how he had just sold half of his 60k shares! lol

We didn't hear from him again for several days. I assume he didn't have internet service in the dog house.