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Posted On: 07/15/2020 11:15:24 PM
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Just saw an interview with Dr. Ramin Oskoui (credentials below - John Hopkins) that was discussing vaccines. He just stated that (and I'm trying to quote what he said by typing while watching a DVR recording his discussion) "the problem with these vaccines (he was speaking of Moderna, Oxford, others) is we don't know how long the antibodies will last and whether they're effective. What concerns me is none of these vaccine makers are looking at innate T Cell immunity - the T Cell is very important in this viral response...and I don't see any metric by these vaccine makers that are measuring this. And that's really the important question to ask; how long will this immunity last, and what are we showing in terms of T Cell training to fight future viral infections, or this viral infection when the vaccine is given."
Sound familiar?
I also saw an interview with Dr. Oz (yeah, I know, a TV doc) that did not specifically mention T Cells, but did question how long the immunity response from the Moderna/Oxford vaccines will last. He said he had a number of vaccine makers on his show, and while he was optimistic, there was no way to have a vaccine by fall, but potentially by 1st of year although there may be no long term immunity provided.
This independently confirms everything Joe and Dr. EVH have talked about re: a complete vaccine. Wonder if Joe and team might contact Dr. Oskoui to discuss NGIO's approach with the T Cell long term response?
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/profiles/resu...min-oskoui
Or maybe speak to Dr. Oz and potentially go on his show to discuss the NGIO approach?
Probably both are prohibited until BARDA makes a decision re: funding. But these discussions do show a weakness that most don't understand when the news headlines show Moderna is in final test phase or Oxford had a full antibody response to their RNA/mRNA vaccines.
So keep the faith that NGIO/GNBT's approach is still valid, and in some ways, is WAY ahead of the game per some very smart independent Doctors - that is, if you choose not to believe Joe or Dr. EVH.
Sound familiar?
I also saw an interview with Dr. Oz (yeah, I know, a TV doc) that did not specifically mention T Cells, but did question how long the immunity response from the Moderna/Oxford vaccines will last. He said he had a number of vaccine makers on his show, and while he was optimistic, there was no way to have a vaccine by fall, but potentially by 1st of year although there may be no long term immunity provided.
This independently confirms everything Joe and Dr. EVH have talked about re: a complete vaccine. Wonder if Joe and team might contact Dr. Oskoui to discuss NGIO's approach with the T Cell long term response?
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/profiles/resu...min-oskoui
Or maybe speak to Dr. Oz and potentially go on his show to discuss the NGIO approach?
Probably both are prohibited until BARDA makes a decision re: funding. But these discussions do show a weakness that most don't understand when the news headlines show Moderna is in final test phase or Oxford had a full antibody response to their RNA/mRNA vaccines.
So keep the faith that NGIO/GNBT's approach is still valid, and in some ways, is WAY ahead of the game per some very smart independent Doctors - that is, if you choose not to believe Joe or Dr. EVH.
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