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Posted On: 06/05/2020 8:49:33 PM
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ECMO is hard. That survival was poor in a handful of early cases in China (1/15 with 2 unresolved) is a good start, but there is a lot more information available...and more relevant information.
In North America and Europe, where docs are more experienced with ECMO and were better versed in treating covid-19 (thanks in no small part to the experiences of the Chinese), the success rate seems to be MUCH better.
I was basing my gross estimate on the following data:
Among well over 1000 patients in a larger database?
survival 55% among resolved cases (about half are unresolved)
https://www.elso.org/COVID19.aspx
A later study in China: 3/7 discharged (with 1 unresolved)
https://journals.lww.com/asaiojournal/Fulltex...for.4.aspx
West Virginia University study: mortality 10/32 (17 unresolved)
DOI: 10.1097/MAT.0000000000001185
This all fits with observations that ECMO lowered mortality rates for ARDS patients with SARS, MERS, and H1N1.
If the survival rate is anything like the 1/3 - 2/3 suggested by the data, a patient coming off life support is a textbook case of "anecdote."
In North America and Europe, where docs are more experienced with ECMO and were better versed in treating covid-19 (thanks in no small part to the experiences of the Chinese), the success rate seems to be MUCH better.
I was basing my gross estimate on the following data:
Among well over 1000 patients in a larger database?
survival 55% among resolved cases (about half are unresolved)
https://www.elso.org/COVID19.aspx
A later study in China: 3/7 discharged (with 1 unresolved)
https://journals.lww.com/asaiojournal/Fulltex...for.4.aspx
West Virginia University study: mortality 10/32 (17 unresolved)
DOI: 10.1097/MAT.0000000000001185
This all fits with observations that ECMO lowered mortality rates for ARDS patients with SARS, MERS, and H1N1.
If the survival rate is anything like the 1/3 - 2/3 suggested by the data, a patient coming off life support is a textbook case of "anecdote."
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