Chiro2019 agree-but he has also said we are family-I have a large family that was jumping with excitement at one point, now we do not even bring up UNVC or Dr. Dalton in our home. I will not buy or sell. But I am extremely PO with how this has been managed by Doc. Call me what you like, could care less. A couple years ago the whole liehub board accused me of being Docs pumper-that was nice. I begged my brother to buy in, so he dropped 7k at .0234-he has never mentioned it but sure he is not jumping with excitement. I still believe this will all work out, but Doc has not made me a happy camper.