Thanks, yes that could be the orders. I haven't used those brokers, so hadn't seen it. The noteholder is selling 30k-110k shares or so per day and stops, depending on volume. This selling is from a person with much bigger orders I believe. They literally got hit for several million shares after NP talked about the deal after the shareholders meeting and didn't budge. The noteholder would move off the ask for the day after 100k.