Oh with crmd, I missed the start of that run. I was on vacation that week, it ran all the way to the 50day. There are times when I am confident about what the sp is going to do based on the chart, like vstm this morning or if I had saw this 2 weeks ago, so woud have jumped in. Then there are times I am not so sure, the current chart now for crmd, I'm not sure, to me it could go either way, but a 50x200 cross coming is usually bad unless it can get back above 7.3.