I threw my hands up a long time ago trying to convince people over there. Best thing I did was introduce some close friends to UNVC and Dr Dalton way back. Now they are very happy, and I'm very happy to have been able to help my personal friends.

Nothing like that going on over on liehub. It's like force-feeding a pack of coyotes information that they will turn inside out and use against you! Varmints and lowlifes.....generally speaking.....there are of course exceptions.

But consider this, the real money isnt on iHub, or even this site. The real money is the corporate side of the market, who are waiting for the stop sign to come down so they can buy up everything they can get. I don't have L2 these days but I understand we have a new upscale MM in the box actively buying. It's starting folks. Big money is getting closer and closer.

So I decided to focus my energy towards where I knew I could make a difference, and that was not on lie hub. This site is awesome because we all share the same vision and we can chat without being hounded by a bunch of coyotes.