Dirk I would say that nons thinks its me. By the way, all of this talk about the wholesaler and liquidator OTCX, is just talk, the real market maker for the last two weeks is ETRF, an on-line retailer who is trying to trade but is trading dumb showing huge volume which real traders and accumulators are not going to touch. I would bet that the seller using ETRF is a message board poster who is giving up.