Exactly Sully....the guy is making progress here people whether some want to admit it or not.....did previous management screw us.....ABSOLUTELY.....and that previous management includes the idiots at UTOPYA in my opinion........that said White is in the process of righting the ship and I think he will put out a real, revenue/profit producing phone in the coming weeks but no matter how much we complain on this board he can only do it as fast as company resources and good business practices dictate......FYI, that ain't gonna be as quickly as most who have been here for the last 12 months want it but it is what it is......last time I checked the sell button comes up when logging into a trading account whenever you log in regardless of who your broker is