Gerald did a podcast called break the bank the other day:
https://anchor.fm/baron-p-murdock/episodes/Am...ech-e30h2n

sort of a drag of a conversation but...
starts off talking about his history and his focus on planning and decision analysis
11 min in he talks about avoiding venture capital
17 min in GC talks about how they're trying to bring in $25M to pay off the debt
18 talks about wishing they hadn't reverse mergered when they originally went public. talks about his new gig advising entrepreneurs
22 complains about big pharma and big investors
25 talks about how to satisfy larger investors
26 crazy talk about VC stuff. need to relisten to this a few more times?!?! wut