He seems to only come out and say he is working on things every 4-5 months when people get justifiably restless and impatient, or he gets tons of emails or if people put out false info, so I don't think that is him pumping the stock. Think about it, the 2 years he has been quiet other than him showing his face on the board a few times, the stock has been dormant, so that clearly hasn't done anything and I doubt that's his goal cause even he would be able to tell that its not working (if his goal was pumping).

if he really wanted to pump the stock, he could either buy paid promos or just release fluff/exaggerated press releases like 90% of penny stocks...so the fact that he hasn't done that gives me some hope that its not a scam. If you think about, if it was already a scam, he might as well put those out as well and get more money from shareholders. If ur already trying to fleece people from money, why not do that as well?? Its very easy to 'get away' with releasing fluff PR's and not incriminate yourself.

So even tho things look bleak... I still wouldn't file this as a scam, more so just incompetence.

Before getting into this stock. I was in a stock called PTAH....it literally mimicked this stock..it had essentially no volume for 2 years... stuck at .0001.... and one day out of the blue, it shot up to .0005...not saying that will happen here, but random jumps like that happen for no reason on penny stocks all the time

I think at some point, not sure when, maybe tomorrow, in a few months, in a year, this stock will have its day as well, all penny stocks do, just have to be patient....there is nothing u can do anyway, its not like u can sell so all we can do is wait.