Common sense indeed. Won’t argue. Looks shady as shit. The only thing one can argue is whether or not Utopya management knew of the plans beforehand or not. Perhaps, which would indicate this is a scam. But why bring on Melanie and Teralight at this juncture then if they are working on shutting down shop. Better to bring on someone less serious. From my observation Teralight seems quite credible.

Of course Utopya has said nothing publicly about Teralight but Melanie herself has made the connection, so it is there. Will Utopya stiff Teralight like Ilja and WeWi or have they found their match and are finally proceeding further?

So many questions. Has the last nine months looked like a P&D, if you step back and observe it neutrally it absolutely does, I won’t deny that. The ultimate question is...Do they actually have phones?

Did they pump this thing up simply to dump or do they have a legitimate business startup.

Starkweather, Brewster and Steinberg make me think not

Darryl (Despite his connection to Starkweather, he is much more accomplished), Owen and Teralight make me think yes.

We may all be a bunch of fucking bag holders, but I will let this one play out. I didn’t have the foresight to dump this thing in March and I live with that decision, but I won’t dump at this low rate and regret it 1 year from now if Utopya actually produces some phones as they, and others including Ilja, Melanie and other credible folks, have insisted are real.