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THE UNTOLD STORY OF SENATOR JOHN McCAIN-- SECRETS OF USS FORRESTAL FIRE REVEALED
Yesterday I saw a TV program on Discovery Channel.
It was a graphic video and post mortem investigation about the mysterious fire on USS Forrestal, at the Gulf of Tonkin, Vietnam, just before a bombing session -- causing 164 deaths and very serious burn injuries to 161.
It is amazing how much disinformation can be spread by Freemasons who control the media. At no stage did they say that US Republican senator John McCain who ran for president against Democrat Obama, was one of the kingpins of this disaster.
His name was never mentioned, while dozens of names were churned out, including that of the pilot of the next aircraft on his side .
No sir--he was NOT an innocent victim , who suffered burns. An aircraft carrier hold about 5500 sailors. There are thousand of sailors all having their own take about the cause of this major fire. It was a piece of cake to withhold information from the American public in those days of peer reviewed magazines all owned by Rothschild controlled Jews and the Free Masons.
AT SEA, AFTER A MAJOR ACCIDENT--IN MY EXPERIENCE, TRUTH HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE FIRST CAUSALITY. POWERFUL FORCES QUICKLY BURY THE TRUTH. COVERING THE HONOURABLE ASSES AND INSURANCE GETS PREPONDERANCE.
I knew about John McCains role in this fire, 2.5 decades ago when USS Forrestal sailors painted Mardi Gras at New Orleans red. When drunk in bar, all want to discuss John McCain and the fire.
USS Forrestal had a long lousy history, and a VERY poor safety record. In fact several sailors had told me that " fires happened every 3 days on an average --but this 29th July 1967 fire just went out of control.
Usually the fire squad would just dump a dry powder extinguisher and put out the fire-- they were experts and cocky about it, at their mindset to treat a large fire as a usual kitchen stove fire ..
On my ships I command, we carry Jet fuel-- I know about Jet fuel fires.
As soon as the fire started the Captain should have used the relative wind to advantage by ALTERING COURSE, and not by reducing speed in a pathetic manner, as shown on the video. It must be noted when planes take off, the aircraft carrier always heads into the wind, for the wind to assist take off.
On chemical tankers which I command, if a sailor does NOT know the relative wind direction, he will be doing his future generations a great dis-service by mutating their genes.
This is the meaning of command and control--it is NOT about throwing your weight around in times of peace and expecting everybody to salute you. When it is dark, only the stars can shine. You can hardly judge the worth of a leader in times of peace--he will stand out only in a crisis --either as a hero OR as a moron saddled around your collective necks as a millstone.
You don't use dry powder extinguishers or JET WATER hoses in a fire. BLEVE ( boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion ) must be given NO 1 priority. Only a fine water mist or Foam can be used on a Jet Fuel fire.
On a ship, we dump acetylene bottles at the vicinity of a fire overboard-- even before the regular emergency headcount muster takes place-- ONE minute of early action can avoid total disaster.
External fuel tanks on fighter jets must never be allowed to BLEVE. This BLEVE is as dangerous as a COOKED off tiny 500 pound ancient bomb.
The official version of the fire was an unusual electronic surge anomaly ( blame it on ZE surge always --and confuse them bosses ) which causes a Zuni rocket from a F4 Phantom to hit the external fuel tank of an A4 piloted by LCDR White -- LCDR John McCains's plane was next to this plane and both planes caught fire instantly.
Both A4 Sky Hawks were while parked on the flights decks, with engines running awaiting clearance, just before the take off.
The covered up truth is bizarre. McCain was a cowboy, acting up like Rambo- trying to be the next General George Patton of history.
None dared to trample his toes as his father McCain II and grand father McCain I were both famous top Admirals-- connected to the powerful Freemasons and Rothschild--hobnobbing with US presidents.
The Captain of the ship will never get a promotion, if John McCain III serving under him, says a bad word about him to daddy.
He was literally unbridled. I have spoken to several USS Forrestal ex-sailors and NONE had a good word to say about him .
Probably it was all grapevine or jealousy or all of them were Democrats. But them ALL cannot be wrong about one single person while being part of a fighting unit. How unfortunate, to be recorded in history this sad way!
People were sick and tired of this young man's cockiness and indiscipline.
But he was recorded in US records and being shot down by a SAM. This is like changing the cause of your death from dying by snake bite, to a more honourable " killed in a fight with a deadly lion".
What pisses of McCain's shipmates was his " come on boy--bring it on-- take me if you can" attitude.
In a class of about 900 at Military academy he was 5th from the bottom --and he felt no danger to himself-- for his daddy was there to see him through.
His first crash was at Corpus Christie, where his plane crash landed into the slush water while landing, and he knocked out unconscious. He said his engine stalled-- but it restarted on first try. A running hot engine does NOT stall. And if it does so, then it wont restart. His father ensured no pilot error was recorded.
His second crash was while trying to do a Rambo and hot dog under pylon supported electric wires -- leaving thousands in Spain without electricity.
His father made sure there was no local or US navy punishment. McCain II was boasting about his own "dare devil clowning".
NOTE: THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH FOR ANY OTHER AIRMAN TO BE BOOTED OUT OF THE FORCE!
His third crash was when he took his jet to see a football game.
On way back to Norfolk, again his engine stalled. All say he was drunk. But then, who is gonna bell the cat? If his father can take helicopters to do fishing burning tax payers money, why not the honorable son?
Can not Freemason Admiral's sons do anything and get away?
On Forrestal aircraft carrier, there was NIL disciple. McCain would WET START his jet, to cock a snook at all.
This is like young drug addicted rich kids trying to get attention by spinning their cars and burning rubber. He just loved to piss off his colleagues, and they could do nothing about it. No body dared to throw a Yank punch at this volatile misfit, who went to the mess or the heads with a chip on his shoulder. . Honourable navy men were reduced to mice.
WET STARTING, BY FLOODING FUEL, WITH FLAMES COMING OUT FROM EXHAUSTS LIKE FLAME THROWERS IS NEVER EVER PERMITTED ON AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER, BY ANY NATION. WET STARTING IS ALWAYS DELIBERATE.
WHEN THE PLANES ARE STARTED IN THEIR PARKING SPACES THEY ARE NOT HEADING INTO THE RELATIVE WIND. THE EXHAUST FLAME HEAT WILL TRAVEL SIDEWAYS AND IT CAN COOK THE EXTERNAL BOMBS OF THE AIRCRAFT ON THE SIDES.
Hardly anybody wore uniform-- it was usual to see smoking in wrong places by bare chested men on duty wearing cut off jeans.
Fuelling planes would be done at the same time as loading heavy external deadly bombs on the aircraft. A4 was a bomber while F4 was a fighter jet.
When a jet wet starts, all know McCain is inside--as that was his signature. When his plane caught fire the first thing he did was to panic and drop his bombs on deck .
Later his father covered it by getting records fudged by telling 1000 pound bombs were connected to his plane instead of the regular 500 pound bombs --as they ran out of bombs ( sic!).
And the heavy bombs just revolted and worked their way loose-- just like the "electric surge theory".
McCain III was QUIETLY bundled into a chopper (no bye bye cheerios) and transferred to another ship, Oriskany, on orders from Mc Cain II, who commanded CINCUSNAVEUR, and had the clout .
The entire crew of 5500 on Forrestal had turned hostile. He was the only sailor to leave Forrestal after the fire-- as it was rumored that he might get lynched.
When he was captured by the Viet Cong on Oct 26th 1969--McCain sang like a canary . His utterances against USA's arrogance was taped (without his knowledge) and used by Vietnam as propaganda.
Imagine this man ran for president!
They made 38 videos of his anti national dishonorable ramblings. If you can't take the heat, why did you join the Navy, meant for real men? Later McCain signed all his taped conversations, and they offered him early release.
There was NO way McCain could come home after putting his signatures on his snitch-sheet, and he preferred to stay back, on advise from his father .
This was touted as a HUGE plus point when he ran for president-- how honorable he was, and how his comrades and friends came before him-- and how his arms and legs were broken during the torture session blah blah.
TV shots were circulated during his campaign showing him hobbling around in crutches as a result of extreme torture.
McCain broke his leg BEFORE being captured by the Viet Cong and then he was POW for 5 years. Why the fuck is he still limpin'?--this is what everybody wants to know.
And Hanoi was spared from US bombs because daddy's son was with the Viet Cong, out there.
He broke his bones all right--it happened but because he panicked and eject improperly from his aircraft, when hit by anti aircraft fire .
You don't qualify to become president by disgracefully crashing your planes and jumping out of a burning plane to save your skin, and ejecting in a rookie manner from a plane which was hit by AA guns.
But then this was him--or else why should be at the bottom of the barrel in a class of 900 at academy, despite his fathers clout.
If he was a black or Hispanic he would have never ever cleared the academy, as he could NOT do simple things straight. It was NOT that he was a moron, he was himself--arrogant cowboy.
McCain III now joins politics. His wife is connected to Jewish Rothschild man Bronfman. Later in life Bronfman financed his run for US president.
I was him campaigning on CNN telling how he tapped messages in Viet Cong prison, with broken bones --and then he asks the audience, pointing to Obama sitting next to him "
Is THIS what you want in White house!
To Obama's credit, though his blood drained from his face, he restrained himself and did NOT respond to this ultimate slur or being called THIS ( like chicken shit ) instead of HIM.
https://ajitvadakayil-1.blogspot.com/2011/09/...r-uss.html
THE UNTOLD STORY OF SENATOR JOHN McCAIN-- SECRETS OF USS FORRESTAL FIRE REVEALED
Yesterday I saw a TV program on Discovery Channel.
It was a graphic video and post mortem investigation about the mysterious fire on USS Forrestal, at the Gulf of Tonkin, Vietnam, just before a bombing session -- causing 164 deaths and very serious burn injuries to 161.
It is amazing how much disinformation can be spread by Freemasons who control the media. At no stage did they say that US Republican senator John McCain who ran for president against Democrat Obama, was one of the kingpins of this disaster.
His name was never mentioned, while dozens of names were churned out, including that of the pilot of the next aircraft on his side .
No sir--he was NOT an innocent victim , who suffered burns. An aircraft carrier hold about 5500 sailors. There are thousand of sailors all having their own take about the cause of this major fire. It was a piece of cake to withhold information from the American public in those days of peer reviewed magazines all owned by Rothschild controlled Jews and the Free Masons.
AT SEA, AFTER A MAJOR ACCIDENT--IN MY EXPERIENCE, TRUTH HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE FIRST CAUSALITY. POWERFUL FORCES QUICKLY BURY THE TRUTH. COVERING THE HONOURABLE ASSES AND INSURANCE GETS PREPONDERANCE.
I knew about John McCains role in this fire, 2.5 decades ago when USS Forrestal sailors painted Mardi Gras at New Orleans red. When drunk in bar, all want to discuss John McCain and the fire.
USS Forrestal had a long lousy history, and a VERY poor safety record. In fact several sailors had told me that " fires happened every 3 days on an average --but this 29th July 1967 fire just went out of control.
Usually the fire squad would just dump a dry powder extinguisher and put out the fire-- they were experts and cocky about it, at their mindset to treat a large fire as a usual kitchen stove fire ..
On my ships I command, we carry Jet fuel-- I know about Jet fuel fires.
As soon as the fire started the Captain should have used the relative wind to advantage by ALTERING COURSE, and not by reducing speed in a pathetic manner, as shown on the video. It must be noted when planes take off, the aircraft carrier always heads into the wind, for the wind to assist take off.
On chemical tankers which I command, if a sailor does NOT know the relative wind direction, he will be doing his future generations a great dis-service by mutating their genes.
This is the meaning of command and control--it is NOT about throwing your weight around in times of peace and expecting everybody to salute you. When it is dark, only the stars can shine. You can hardly judge the worth of a leader in times of peace--he will stand out only in a crisis --either as a hero OR as a moron saddled around your collective necks as a millstone.
You don't use dry powder extinguishers or JET WATER hoses in a fire. BLEVE ( boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion ) must be given NO 1 priority. Only a fine water mist or Foam can be used on a Jet Fuel fire.
On a ship, we dump acetylene bottles at the vicinity of a fire overboard-- even before the regular emergency headcount muster takes place-- ONE minute of early action can avoid total disaster.
External fuel tanks on fighter jets must never be allowed to BLEVE. This BLEVE is as dangerous as a COOKED off tiny 500 pound ancient bomb.
The official version of the fire was an unusual electronic surge anomaly ( blame it on ZE surge always --and confuse them bosses ) which causes a Zuni rocket from a F4 Phantom to hit the external fuel tank of an A4 piloted by LCDR White -- LCDR John McCains's plane was next to this plane and both planes caught fire instantly.
Both A4 Sky Hawks were while parked on the flights decks, with engines running awaiting clearance, just before the take off.
The covered up truth is bizarre. McCain was a cowboy, acting up like Rambo- trying to be the next General George Patton of history.
None dared to trample his toes as his father McCain II and grand father McCain I were both famous top Admirals-- connected to the powerful Freemasons and Rothschild--hobnobbing with US presidents.
The Captain of the ship will never get a promotion, if John McCain III serving under him, says a bad word about him to daddy.
He was literally unbridled. I have spoken to several USS Forrestal ex-sailors and NONE had a good word to say about him .
Probably it was all grapevine or jealousy or all of them were Democrats. But them ALL cannot be wrong about one single person while being part of a fighting unit. How unfortunate, to be recorded in history this sad way!
People were sick and tired of this young man's cockiness and indiscipline.
But he was recorded in US records and being shot down by a SAM. This is like changing the cause of your death from dying by snake bite, to a more honourable " killed in a fight with a deadly lion".
What pisses of McCain's shipmates was his " come on boy--bring it on-- take me if you can" attitude.
In a class of about 900 at Military academy he was 5th from the bottom --and he felt no danger to himself-- for his daddy was there to see him through.
His first crash was at Corpus Christie, where his plane crash landed into the slush water while landing, and he knocked out unconscious. He said his engine stalled-- but it restarted on first try. A running hot engine does NOT stall. And if it does so, then it wont restart. His father ensured no pilot error was recorded.
His second crash was while trying to do a Rambo and hot dog under pylon supported electric wires -- leaving thousands in Spain without electricity.
His father made sure there was no local or US navy punishment. McCain II was boasting about his own "dare devil clowning".
NOTE: THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH FOR ANY OTHER AIRMAN TO BE BOOTED OUT OF THE FORCE!
His third crash was when he took his jet to see a football game.
On way back to Norfolk, again his engine stalled. All say he was drunk. But then, who is gonna bell the cat? If his father can take helicopters to do fishing burning tax payers money, why not the honorable son?
Can not Freemason Admiral's sons do anything and get away?
On Forrestal aircraft carrier, there was NIL disciple. McCain would WET START his jet, to cock a snook at all.
This is like young drug addicted rich kids trying to get attention by spinning their cars and burning rubber. He just loved to piss off his colleagues, and they could do nothing about it. No body dared to throw a Yank punch at this volatile misfit, who went to the mess or the heads with a chip on his shoulder. . Honourable navy men were reduced to mice.
WET STARTING, BY FLOODING FUEL, WITH FLAMES COMING OUT FROM EXHAUSTS LIKE FLAME THROWERS IS NEVER EVER PERMITTED ON AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER, BY ANY NATION. WET STARTING IS ALWAYS DELIBERATE.
WHEN THE PLANES ARE STARTED IN THEIR PARKING SPACES THEY ARE NOT HEADING INTO THE RELATIVE WIND. THE EXHAUST FLAME HEAT WILL TRAVEL SIDEWAYS AND IT CAN COOK THE EXTERNAL BOMBS OF THE AIRCRAFT ON THE SIDES.
Hardly anybody wore uniform-- it was usual to see smoking in wrong places by bare chested men on duty wearing cut off jeans.
Fuelling planes would be done at the same time as loading heavy external deadly bombs on the aircraft. A4 was a bomber while F4 was a fighter jet.
When a jet wet starts, all know McCain is inside--as that was his signature. When his plane caught fire the first thing he did was to panic and drop his bombs on deck .
Later his father covered it by getting records fudged by telling 1000 pound bombs were connected to his plane instead of the regular 500 pound bombs --as they ran out of bombs ( sic!).
And the heavy bombs just revolted and worked their way loose-- just like the "electric surge theory".
McCain III was QUIETLY bundled into a chopper (no bye bye cheerios) and transferred to another ship, Oriskany, on orders from Mc Cain II, who commanded CINCUSNAVEUR, and had the clout .
The entire crew of 5500 on Forrestal had turned hostile. He was the only sailor to leave Forrestal after the fire-- as it was rumored that he might get lynched.
When he was captured by the Viet Cong on Oct 26th 1969--McCain sang like a canary . His utterances against USA's arrogance was taped (without his knowledge) and used by Vietnam as propaganda.
Imagine this man ran for president!
They made 38 videos of his anti national dishonorable ramblings. If you can't take the heat, why did you join the Navy, meant for real men? Later McCain signed all his taped conversations, and they offered him early release.
There was NO way McCain could come home after putting his signatures on his snitch-sheet, and he preferred to stay back, on advise from his father .
This was touted as a HUGE plus point when he ran for president-- how honorable he was, and how his comrades and friends came before him-- and how his arms and legs were broken during the torture session blah blah.
TV shots were circulated during his campaign showing him hobbling around in crutches as a result of extreme torture.
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McCain broke his leg BEFORE being captured by the Viet Cong and then he was POW for 5 years. Why the fuck is he still limpin'?--this is what everybody wants to know.
And Hanoi was spared from US bombs because daddy's son was with the Viet Cong, out there.
He broke his bones all right--it happened but because he panicked and eject improperly from his aircraft, when hit by anti aircraft fire .
You don't qualify to become president by disgracefully crashing your planes and jumping out of a burning plane to save your skin, and ejecting in a rookie manner from a plane which was hit by AA guns.
But then this was him--or else why should be at the bottom of the barrel in a class of 900 at academy, despite his fathers clout.
If he was a black or Hispanic he would have never ever cleared the academy, as he could NOT do simple things straight. It was NOT that he was a moron, he was himself--arrogant cowboy.
McCain III now joins politics. His wife is connected to Jewish Rothschild man Bronfman. Later in life Bronfman financed his run for US president.
I was him campaigning on CNN telling how he tapped messages in Viet Cong prison, with broken bones --and then he asks the audience, pointing to Obama sitting next to him "
Is THIS what you want in White house!
To Obama's credit, though his blood drained from his face, he restrained himself and did NOT respond to this ultimate slur or being called THIS ( like chicken shit ) instead of HIM.
https://ajitvadakayil-1.blogspot.com/2011/09/...r-uss.html
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