I agree with that, thats why I post links for this company with industries they are involved in. Along with the transcript for their last conference call. It may end up as nothing just like everything else, but they are def talking the same stuff that Utopya is implying, or has implied in the past. Again, this could turn into grains of sand slipping threw our fingures just like all the other stuff. I don't even know what to believe any more.