If they were a public company we woyld know for sure...but we dont know if they are profitable and if they are what are their margins.They have raised a ton of money over the years...when do those investors get back their millions ? Still say its about the process...batch still being utilized in everyone elses production.QMCs green process can utilize the same chemicals over a number of times which also brings the opex and capex costs down even further than others.As this market heats up it will be the lowest price and best product that will get market share.