The problem here is people don't know anything. They just throw the numbers. The only person knows is SB who has not given any numbers. For example I was eager to hear about KL after the mold improvement to handle more production bringing cost down. Well guess what nothing has been said about it lately. What is the current production rate? we don't know. All these kind on unknown given bashers more opportunity to bash the company. Again, No one knows about the numbers except SB.