well when information relating to requirements was posted here it was more often than not removed, that person called a basher, and you were left with a nice safe cosy room to recite and believe the story that all was well. Look at the timing of the letters and the response time and tell me papa and others like Mogul were not pumping this to you guys. Even the most recent visit story was intended to get one last pump out of this before the hammer fell. Your ire was directed to the wrong people. Sorry this happened but this was coming for a very long time but you people here were told what to believe by those with a vested interest in making sure you only ever received one side of the story. That is the danger of message boards, the creation of a cult of 'we are family", we are friends, we have the best shareholders and so on. This is the result when fair opinion is censored.