Now, we both know only an idiot would think this POS is going to $.25. Agreed! VICT will be at no bid way before it ever gets near $.25. And, I answered you on ihub. I don't pay any trading fees. You probably have enough in a managed account to get free trades. Don't you? Ask if you can get free trades. They give them out 50 or 100 at a time. When I am running low, I call my acct mgr and he gets me more. JKIR, sonny