That manipulation is too obvious for anyone to understand apparently. There is no way at any time that I would be posting all over the message boards that a companies share price was going to drop continually, I wouldn't tell other potential investors they are buying fake shares, I wouldn't be adding false quotes to make my out of context posts look scary(and I probably wouldn't show up and start investing right as the company is being attacked by shorts)... I am a long term investors here maybe I don't understand how the trading, swinging and shorting groups work... But they are good and have gotten control of this board through the backdoor!