See, that's the thing. Out doing flippers and MM's. It does happen, although admittedly not often. That happened enough times for me to finally learn that a strategy of flip until profit and then hold a few shares is totally worth it. It just takes one to suddenly change your whole lifestyle. If it goes bad, oh well, at least you made some money already. If it goes well, holy mother of God, I just improved the living conditions of me, my wife, my son, my parents, her parents, and maybe a couple of friends that have been there through everything. I live in Vegas. I have seen it all. And if I haven't seen it, I still won't be all that surprised when I finally do because it was just a matter of time before I did.