even if it is not over,i believe when we see the ratio of debt to sales it will show a very healthy co.doing it right for long term success. SB appears to me to be someone who won't tolerate being in the otc any longer than he has to. i think the posters who think long term is 48 to 72 hrs. drive him crazy. i'm looking for either a buy back or split or combination to get us to .04. i believe steve will take us to the big board asap if for no other reason than to get rid of the daily "chicken littles". i'm riding this one all the way to the barn. jmo