It seems to me that we have the oldest artwork on MFA and OOBA. That said, there are other companes that have patents for MFA(Google, Apple, etc) that do not preclude ours. There might be a lot of companies angry at Knobbe Martens if this was successful am I correct in assuming all MFA patents are invalid if ours is? That will not sit well with big companies. Knobbe you might have made a big mistake playing that card...lol..it could backfire big time on Secureauth in the form of losing customers...just my opinion