To OldSaltDawg-no, no one, including you, chased me away. I have been here most every day, sometimes 5 or 6 times a day. Still doing a lot of learning. Investing has fascinated me for a long time. But never had a mentor until Fitzkarz came along. And others came along that liked fitzkarz and were also, to a certain extent, filling in that need for a mentor. I feel like a real novice compared to most of the people on this board so I listen and read a lot. Very few investors make any money and even fewer make any serious money-like above 50K a year. You are one of the more interesting posters in your style of investing. You encourage me a lot that there is light at the end of the tunnel and it's not another train. Thank you for posting here and helping me on my way. My best to you and all, Jim