its all about licensing. retail sales are good, but at the end of the day, ill take licensing. in retail sales, as much as you sell via Amazon, Best Buy, HSN, etc., there are still costs like shipping/freight.

Webinar did confirm we have a licensing deal with Microsoft for all their Cloud access-that alone is huge. we do have government contracts, and also large private sector contracts. much of those, including the MS deal are deals he cannot discuss. cannot discuss doesnt mean we dont have revenues.