I am just speculating here but read about this elsewhere: listen to this interview and at about the 9:00-9:15 mark... talking about flying to tel aviv...maybe involves owcp? maybe not-interesting, though! worth a listen...whole interview is 14 min. approx.,..or just listen around the 9 minute mark...just wanted to post this:

https://upticknewswire.com/ceo-jon-doukas-tre...listeners/