Ok ..Let me put this ...Joe tartar was ex-CFO and Gerry's right hand more than 20 years ...Thats was the last Gerry's man in this company......When jesse and his crew showed up as early as 2007 ,they tried to kick joe ass but they didnt.... They waited more than 4 years and Paul brought emmett...AFTER TEVE DOWN 90% ,GERRY STEP IN AGAIN...