I agree but in Hjoe's case the mods were the bashers when it first started, what GS was saying about squeezing these parasites making it to where they can't cover their shares without huge losses is the only way they learn. I remember during an APS promo a 1 million dollar bet was placed when the market maker went short. The stock went to 9 bucks. That market maker went out of buisness and I read somewhere he works at BMAK now. Huge losses that's how you fix these worms.