Agree completely Papa, and I am betting big on it! there is no such thing as loss until you cash in your chips and leave the table down. Baltia didn't lose anything, they invested whatever the number is, even if it is 100 million (which I understand it is less) its an investment in start up costs. Whatever that investment is, the more sizeable the better because its a huge asset to all of us once we reach the revenue phase. Theses are facts!!! Man do I love facts!