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Posted On: 02/09/2017 8:12:09 AM
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Re: redherring #17812
Redherring - per your comment below:
"Were you not the one who started this rumor in the first place? I can not find one single post from smalls claiming he had 56 million shares."
I dont which alias started that or if it started with Muse and then was repeated over here. But you will not find it as it doesnt exist. They know it as well. I asked for specific proof back when they originally stated the claim and they all went silent (along with a few other comments I asked them to verify). Now some are saying they cant find the posts.
There is a specific intent to silence critics of the company/IR on this board. They did so on Twitter be first deleting anyone who had questions they didnt want to answer and then any questions period. Generally - I wouldnt havean issue with that if it was used purely for information exchange but when they attack shareholders or respond to Tweets without showing the tweet they are replying to (awhile back they claimed this was an issue with Twitter and they were "working on it"
- it really isnt about just sharing information.
Now they are trying to blackmail TraderJeff via Twitter by threatening to limit his access if he doesnt "moderate" the board the way they want it. Once again - trying to silence critics and pound home their narrative.
Problem is - their narrative has little credibility due to the dramatic misses (PPS targets, OS targets, etc) that I have outlined previously. This morning's tweets state a new goal of a reduction by 90% in OS/AS. If anyone here who is so pro-Muse really believed that - they would be buying shares hand over fist and thePPS would rise. They say the window is closed but there were 30MM shares at 7 yesterday being offered. Assuming that OS is 4.5 BB and they reduce by 90% - just with the supposed BTL revenue of $13.5MM a year would value the stock close to $0.25 on that contract alone (based on P/s). But little to no faith is being put into what they are saying (despite the posts here) and the proof is in supply/demand. There is still, and has been, plenty of supply of shares and VNDM was back heavy on the ASK with 15MM yesterday at one point.
I remain here due to Bill's mfg experience and relationships in China. Those are critical to be viable in that market. The NAVAIR certification and domestic production give them a real advantage. Capitalizing on that has taken longer than expected but past PR about new LOI hopefully demonstrates the influence continues to expand and will charge the BTL relationship forward.
"Were you not the one who started this rumor in the first place? I can not find one single post from smalls claiming he had 56 million shares."
I dont which alias started that or if it started with Muse and then was repeated over here. But you will not find it as it doesnt exist. They know it as well. I asked for specific proof back when they originally stated the claim and they all went silent (along with a few other comments I asked them to verify). Now some are saying they cant find the posts.
There is a specific intent to silence critics of the company/IR on this board. They did so on Twitter be first deleting anyone who had questions they didnt want to answer and then any questions period. Generally - I wouldnt havean issue with that if it was used purely for information exchange but when they attack shareholders or respond to Tweets without showing the tweet they are replying to (awhile back they claimed this was an issue with Twitter and they were "working on it"
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Now they are trying to blackmail TraderJeff via Twitter by threatening to limit his access if he doesnt "moderate" the board the way they want it. Once again - trying to silence critics and pound home their narrative.
Problem is - their narrative has little credibility due to the dramatic misses (PPS targets, OS targets, etc) that I have outlined previously. This morning's tweets state a new goal of a reduction by 90% in OS/AS. If anyone here who is so pro-Muse really believed that - they would be buying shares hand over fist and thePPS would rise. They say the window is closed but there were 30MM shares at 7 yesterday being offered. Assuming that OS is 4.5 BB and they reduce by 90% - just with the supposed BTL revenue of $13.5MM a year would value the stock close to $0.25 on that contract alone (based on P/s). But little to no faith is being put into what they are saying (despite the posts here) and the proof is in supply/demand. There is still, and has been, plenty of supply of shares and VNDM was back heavy on the ASK with 15MM yesterday at one point.
I remain here due to Bill's mfg experience and relationships in China. Those are critical to be viable in that market. The NAVAIR certification and domestic production give them a real advantage. Capitalizing on that has taken longer than expected but past PR about new LOI hopefully demonstrates the influence continues to expand and will charge the BTL relationship forward.
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