If anyone here knows Steve's character it its Art. Why are you possessed about something from a different company 13 years ago where Steve was indirectly involved. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRESENT situation QMC is involved with. Seems like progress is being made on many fronts including Nitto Denko, Uniglobe Kisco and the QMCA. The people who post here are Long you may have better results on I-Hub.