Sure, fully understood. I know of another one -- BBRD, that I had a significant position in, that had incredible DD by a lot of descent and honorable small investors. Man, everyone thought it would have been the real deal, but we found out later, it is being run by a bunch of novices and professional scammers. It went out to 8 cents and many of us waited for 25 cents and a $1.00, but it was just a pie in the sky. It turned out be a dilution machine and most of us lost thousands of dollars. It hit trips the other day, and is trading like .0014 now.