Thesmails that is one of the most truthful insight i have seen written on this board about the company. You are correct HJOE could of done R/S they could of enriched themselves. They did none of this they all also didn't take salary. The reason being, they have a real company and are playing for the long term. This for them has always been about building a successful brand and company. They are going to continue that and in the end there will be many happy folks who went the distance with HJOE. To qoute Luxe and i think he has understood longer that some of us did. "This is not a sprint its a marathon."