OhioJ, I think you hit the nail on the head. If they're paid by the Hub, there not coming here. I think about ClayTr... and his 7000 followers, what a scheme they have. We'll have to mention the hangout when posters are watching, since posts will be deleted quickly! Hopefully more of the good guys and gals will come over here. We'll see if the other site continues to have on again off again issues. What goes around comes around. I'm glad I'll be staying here. Go SPCl, long and strong!