Posted On: 12/15/2016 10:09:41 AM
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Re: Ragz2Richez #16324
ragz - how does the below help the board/investors looking for information?
" Posted On: 12/15/2016 8:54:17 AM
Posted By: Ragz2Richez
Re: thesmalls #16321
blah....blah....blah.....
p.s. you're asking the wrong questions.....to the wrong people.....go ask Bill....let us know what he says! lol"
so - what are the "right" questions? and what are the answers you have been given to those "right" questions? how does responding in this cryptic manner help anyone on here gain perspective or further the discussion? you accused me of lying. you havent answered any of my basic questions. you then respond that i am not asking the right ones but you do no present those to teh board for discussion. that is asinine.
why should i ask Bill a simple question on the buyback being initiated when there is supposed to be an IR source put in place to alleviate Bill from these very types of questions/concerns so that he can focus on the day to day? why does IR respond to my emails within hours (sometimes minutes) on MRVB related questions but when I ask that simple question - i get no response? so - again - what are the "right" questions. when i have more specific questions that require detailed discussion - i will not hesitate to contact Bill.
MAG1 - responding to your useless barb - you complain about the current mods and being removed as one but how did you effectively facilitate discussion? you blatantly violated TOU with your public replies not to mention the attacks and threats via PM. you or others may not like my opinions or assertions but you do nothing to further the discussion or counter the assertions. instead, you attack and use the same manner of deflect, ignore, change the subject as others on here. you attack other mods for being anti company when they are certified shareholders who got the same treatment from IR as other long term shareholders. maybe you would like to present some of the "right" questions (and answers) that ragz is referring to.
you, IR, ragz, kmohr and others have made it clear the company should contact IR or Bill with questions. however, IR is very selective with their responses and if pressed - they block you. not really effective IR for shareholders. on the contrary - Bill has been open to discussion even when he doesnt have the time. i have suggested numerous times to this board that shareholders should contact Bill directly if they are getting the run around/blocked by IR or arent happy with the responses. i still think they should. this board should be used as a sounding board for discussion of the pros and cons - not the ultimate source for answers. but people with basic questions (or more in depth) should be able to ask them and debate the answers without feeling like they will be humiliated publicly here or on the official IR Twitter feed.
the issue is they shouldnt NEED to for such basic questions. that is the primary role of an investor relation group. this group bounces shareholders that try to get clarification back to Bill. what is their purpose? if it is MRVB/alternative revenue - fine. but do not use them as the Investor Relation contact on PRs. since it is a public company - it is "our" money that is being paid (directly or indirectly) to them to act in that capacity. it is also our "loss" if they turn away potential investors by their antics/unprofessional behavior.
as far as replying to my questions/posts directly or creating a new post - I do not care. i have publicly affirmed that i have never been compensated for any opinions (written or otherwise) by any entity when it comes to stocks/securities. i am not connected to any group in any way, shape, fashion that is connected to the company or any market maker or group intent on manipulating the stock. so - feel free to create a new post when replying. however, if doing so - at least answer the questions asked or further the discussion on those addressed.
before i am accused of not responding - i will be away the rest of the day so i wont be responding to any questions until later today/tomorrow. for those that feel the need to PM me with BS or further attacks - i can ignore them just like you can ignore these posts if they do not pertain to you.
" Posted On: 12/15/2016 8:54:17 AM
Posted By: Ragz2Richez
Re: thesmalls #16321
blah....blah....blah.....
p.s. you're asking the wrong questions.....to the wrong people.....go ask Bill....let us know what he says! lol"
so - what are the "right" questions? and what are the answers you have been given to those "right" questions? how does responding in this cryptic manner help anyone on here gain perspective or further the discussion? you accused me of lying. you havent answered any of my basic questions. you then respond that i am not asking the right ones but you do no present those to teh board for discussion. that is asinine.
why should i ask Bill a simple question on the buyback being initiated when there is supposed to be an IR source put in place to alleviate Bill from these very types of questions/concerns so that he can focus on the day to day? why does IR respond to my emails within hours (sometimes minutes) on MRVB related questions but when I ask that simple question - i get no response? so - again - what are the "right" questions. when i have more specific questions that require detailed discussion - i will not hesitate to contact Bill.
MAG1 - responding to your useless barb - you complain about the current mods and being removed as one but how did you effectively facilitate discussion? you blatantly violated TOU with your public replies not to mention the attacks and threats via PM. you or others may not like my opinions or assertions but you do nothing to further the discussion or counter the assertions. instead, you attack and use the same manner of deflect, ignore, change the subject as others on here. you attack other mods for being anti company when they are certified shareholders who got the same treatment from IR as other long term shareholders. maybe you would like to present some of the "right" questions (and answers) that ragz is referring to.
you, IR, ragz, kmohr and others have made it clear the company should contact IR or Bill with questions. however, IR is very selective with their responses and if pressed - they block you. not really effective IR for shareholders. on the contrary - Bill has been open to discussion even when he doesnt have the time. i have suggested numerous times to this board that shareholders should contact Bill directly if they are getting the run around/blocked by IR or arent happy with the responses. i still think they should. this board should be used as a sounding board for discussion of the pros and cons - not the ultimate source for answers. but people with basic questions (or more in depth) should be able to ask them and debate the answers without feeling like they will be humiliated publicly here or on the official IR Twitter feed.
the issue is they shouldnt NEED to for such basic questions. that is the primary role of an investor relation group. this group bounces shareholders that try to get clarification back to Bill. what is their purpose? if it is MRVB/alternative revenue - fine. but do not use them as the Investor Relation contact on PRs. since it is a public company - it is "our" money that is being paid (directly or indirectly) to them to act in that capacity. it is also our "loss" if they turn away potential investors by their antics/unprofessional behavior.
as far as replying to my questions/posts directly or creating a new post - I do not care. i have publicly affirmed that i have never been compensated for any opinions (written or otherwise) by any entity when it comes to stocks/securities. i am not connected to any group in any way, shape, fashion that is connected to the company or any market maker or group intent on manipulating the stock. so - feel free to create a new post when replying. however, if doing so - at least answer the questions asked or further the discussion on those addressed.
before i am accused of not responding - i will be away the rest of the day so i wont be responding to any questions until later today/tomorrow. for those that feel the need to PM me with BS or further attacks - i can ignore them just like you can ignore these posts if they do not pertain to you.
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