One thing that you don't seem to to take into consideration is that when an investor hears it from me, I pretty much am speaking from all I know, all I see much DD my many years experience in the penny world. That's no garentee to success but it sure increases the odds tremendously. I'm also willing to help the company anyway I can, meaning, this isn't a passive investment. There may be no need for you to even post. Just watch the run tickets and when the BPD reaches a certain level relative to PPS, make your buy.