Difference between long term investing and trading. You selectively and not too creatively picked data points to try and devalue my overriding points which still stand. Comments on this board continue to increase in the lack of support of confidence/trust in the IR group. Non traders were better off pre IR. Your figures on stock price before IR are mosly irrelevant as the company didnt "emerge" until 2015 with respect to original 5 year plan that Bill laid out. Share price increase reflected growing confidence in that plan being fully executed.