haha sweet! thanks Jax. I was reading about K2 lawsuit and negative posts just for lack of info. I don't advise it. I tried calling ntek but I think it was just after hours in cali 830p eastern =530p in cali. no answer but good music holding. press 1 for sales 2 for tech sup 3 for accounting 4 for......- very professional sounding though. anyway thanks . now come on NTEK! bust a news nut