Exactly... there's much more going on besides this with TPAC, that it's unclear at this point to know specifics but one thing has to be for sure... this is BIG. In my five years in the gutter of OTC, I've not seen anything close to it. As always, I'll reiterate what's most important to me is a CEO follow through on his word and from all I've now seen and heard, Bill McKay is being true to that.